Case #1 - Who Strafed Rommel's Car?

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  1. Ian Sayer

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    Hi Pat

    Well I think your theory fits the bill. As I have previously mentioned my feeling is that the attack took place around 18.15 Double BST.

    Regards

    Ian
     
  2. Ellen Duinker

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    In Post #57 I alluded to a booklet compiled in 2014 by the Historical Society of Vimoutiers. There are several pages/pictures devoted to F.M. Rommel. Written in French, I can discern (barely!) some of the comments include anaecdotal "eye witness" accounts.
    The booklet is referenced in Vimoutiers library and I have a copy. If this of interest, how can I ensure you have the relevant pages?
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  3. Ian Sayer

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    Hello Ellen

    Yes I recall reading that. It is certainly of interest. Would it be possible to scan the relevant pages and post them on this thread?

    Kind Regards

    Ian
     
  4. Pat Curran

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    Thanks Ellen,

    As Ian says, we would be delighted to have a look at any relevant pages from the booklet. You can send scans to me if you wish and I'll compile a PDF for insertion into this thread.

    Much appreciated,

    Pat
     
  5. Ellen Duinker

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    Hi Ian,

    Scanned pages were sent to Pat for translation and posting.

    Ellen
     
  6. Ian Sayer

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    OK THat's great Ellen. Thanks very much indeed. I shall look forward to seeing them.

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  7. Pat Curran

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    Ellen & Ian,

    On my 'to do' list :D

    Regards,

    Pat
     
  8. Ian Sayer

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    Great
    Thanks Pat
    Regards
    Ian
     
  9. Pat Curran

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    Hi Ian,

    The scans are now in a single PDF here (51.5MBs). Some of the photos which appeared in the 'After the Battle' article seem to be also published in the booklet. Not sure which is the original source.

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    Pat
     
  10. Ian Sayer

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    Hi Pat
    Thanks for doing that. I will look at them now.
    Regards
    Ian
     
  11. Pat Curran

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    Hi All,

    I came across this document in the UK National Archives titled:

    109294-11007. 109401 Rommel's "car accident"

    From the document tree structure at the bottom of the page, I take this document to be an 'Ultra' decrypt of a German signal transmitted sometime after the "accident" in early August. I am not sure what, if anything, it will add to our knowledge of the attack - my hope would be that there is at least a reference to the location therein.

    Unfortunately, its not yet digitised, so I have to pay a 'Page Check' fee of £8.24 just to get a price for copying all or part of the document. :rolleyes:

    Regards,

    Pat
     
  12. allan125

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    Well spotted Pat, this will be an interesting document, and might close the book on this one!!
     
  13. Pat Curran

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    I think that's a bit optimistic Allan :D

    Really all I am hoping for is that it might confirm the location of the attack. More likely is that it will refer to the location as being 'near Livarot' :(

    Regards,

    Pat
     
  14. allan125

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    No Pat, it will clearly describe three Spitfire's clearly marked LO, hence the TV programme "ello, ello, ello" ☺☺
     
  15. Jpz4

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    Pat, I may know someone willing to copy this at the Archive.
     
  16. allan125

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    That would be really great, even if it simply states it was an accident near Livarot, at least we would know how it was reported up the line.

    Cheers

    Allan

    p.s. for those not in the know, with my poor attempt at humour, "ello" was a British comedy show about the French resistance, and is constantly re-shown, mainly because it is better and funnier than current comedy ☺☺
     
  17. Pat Curran

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    Thanks Niels,

    That would be superb if you could get it copied for us - but don't let it impact on your contact's time if he/she has their own research to get done.

    I've paid the 'Page Check' fee in any case, so that report will tell us how big the document is and the cost of a copy. I also asked them to check and quote for just the relevant page(s) pertaining to the location of the attack (if such detail is related therein)

    Allan,

    Nothing beats 'Dad's Army' - I see they have a new feature film out! :D

    Regards,

    Pat
     
  18. allan125

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    Hello Pat - The extracts that I have seen of the new Dad's Army film don't seem a patch on the original TV programmes - "Don't tell him your name Pike!" but both Dad's and ello are classics in their own way!! And for our, possibly, bemused members not from the UK or Ireland, this comedy show was about the antics of a platoon of the Home Guard from 1940. The Home Guard was formed from civilians in 1940 as an aid to the battered British forces after their battles and evacuation from France.
     
  19. Ian Sayer

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    Hi All

    I'll also check to see if anyone might be able to copy the file whilst they are down at the archives. Greta find anyway. Well down Pat

    Regards

    Ian
     
  20. Ellen Duinker

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    Gentlemen,

    British humor is without equal; save for that of the Irish.
    Can I assume access to German records has been unsuccessful or inconclusive?

    Regards,
    Ellen
     

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